He continued in a similar, ranty vein, “Don’t believe the Radical Left’s Fake Poll numbers. They are Crooked and Corrupt, just like the Country Destroying Dumocrats are Crooked and Corrupt. VOTE REPUBLICAN FOR GREATNESS IN AMERICA!”

Fresh data from CNN puts his approval at a meager 34 percent, matching his post-Jan. 6 trough, while a new AP-NORC poll has him tied at a post-2017 low of 33 percent. Quinnipiac paints an even grimmer picture, dropping him to a career low of 32 percent.

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    If you look back at Nixon’s numbers, even as he resigned in total disgrace, it will tell you a lot.

    Everything Nixon did was weak sauce compared to Trump. I don’t understand why Nixon was so vilified, his framework for healthcare was eventually adopted as Obamacare, he signed the SALT treaty with Russia, he opened up trade with China, he tailed off troops from Vietnam war supported by Kennedy and Johnson. He ended the draft (started by Johnson) , he started the EPA, he declared war on cancer, increased the NIH, increased CDC…no president increased this spending until Clinton.

    Big fucking difference from Trump’s accomplishments, which in his second term are still zero. Literally cannot list one positive action from Trump.

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      He convinced the North Vietnamese to stay away from the Paris Peace Talks, so he could get elected (which LBJ called “treason”), then he allowed the war to go on for his entire term, so he could use it to get elected again - “Peace is at hand” and "Don’t change horses mid-stream - as if the president who was waging war for political purposes was interested in pursuing peace.

      It only ended because we lost the war, Saigon was overrun, and America had to run for it, our worst, most humiliating military loss in history. Nixon never really wanted Peace.

      58,000 young American soldiers died, most of them under Nixon’s watch, many of them drafted by the government out of their childhood bedrooms, to die in a tiny country halfway around the world, that posed no threat to America in any way, just so Nixon could get reelected. And do Watergate.

      Any wonder why people wanted him gone?

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        58,000 young American soldiers died, most of them under Nixon’s watch, many of them drafted by the government out of their childhood bedrooms

        The Vietnam war was started by John F. Kennedy and escalated through a huge number of corrupt military contracts benefitting Johnson’s cronies (search Brown and Root). The 58,000 who died were mostly drafted by Johnson, who initiated the draft. This was the Democrat’s war. But Lyndon Johnson somehow gets written as the hero and Nixon the villain. It was a 20 year war, and Nixon was only president for 5 years and he had a lot of shit to clean up, mostly tied to MIC corruption in Vietnam which killed a lot of American kids. Nixon ended the draft, he ended the war, not sure where your history is coming from, but Lemmy Democrats can be as bad as MAGA.

        In the big picture 1950-2026, Nixon was not as bad a President as people want to believe.

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          Nixon won both of his elections by saying he would end the war, and did absolutely nothing to do that, and expanded the war. It’s on him.

          For what it’s worth, LBJ sucks, too. It’s not a party thing.

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          This was the Democrat’s war.

          If you use this lens of thinking for pre-70’s america, you won’t ever really understand that culture.

          Thing is, Americans weren’t anywhere near as polarized as today. So republicans and democrats probably agreed on a lot of things even on the campaign trail. A vice president would be a president from the *opposite * party as a sign of cooperation.

          People wouldn’t be pointing fingers at any party over this because odds are both parties wanted the war to happen for various reasons. It was simply “America’s war”.

          In the big picture 1950-2026, Nixon was not as bad a President as people want to believe.

          1. That just shows how far standards fell in America

          2. That doesn’t ubdo the evils done beforehand

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          Compared to trump, Jackson isn’t such a bad guy. But at the same time, it’s a tad rich to denigrate Lemmy Democrats in the same sentence you go full Nixon apologist.

          Heres the deal: you can say history was too unkind to nixon and quibble about all the tedious the details all you want - but only once you’ve spent a couple days traipsing around Siem Reap. I absolutely guarantee you’ll get over the urge to play this asinine “who was history’s biggest monster” bullshit and get on to something more productive, like joining me in drinking ourselves to death because nothing will ever get better.