State supreme court rules in case of two bishops who were silent about three children abused by Mormon parents

Clergy members in Arizona who learn of child abuse in the context of religious confession are not required to report it, the state’s supreme court has said in a ruling that protects what church leaders call the “seal of the confessional”.

The panel’s ruling ends a long-running case in which three children who were sexually abused by their parents sued the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS), also known as the Mormon church, and two bishops who became aware of the crimes but remained silent.

The case has parallels in a short-lived 2025 law in Washington state that would have compelled clergy members there to report sexual abuse. That proposal was permanently withdrawn in October after legal action by the Catholic church.

In a statement, the LDS welcomed the unanimous ruling by the state supreme court on Thursday that exempts clergy members as “mandated reporters” if they learned of the abuse of minors in the confession booth or through other “confidential” methods.

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    The universe, as agreed upon is the combination of time, space and matter

    so if it was created, the creator needs to be outside of time, space and matter and be powerful enough to create the universe and be loving enough to create it even though he didnt need it

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      The universe, as agreed upon is the combination of time, space and matter

      I suppose? The universe is everything, all of existence, from what I understand. Your model leaves out light, massless photons.

      so if it was created

      Big if! We have no reason to assume it was.

      the creator needs to be outside of time, space and matter and be powerful enough to create the universe and be loving enough to create it even though he didnt need it

      And so did his creator. Right? Or is this special pleading again?

      Also, a god who would give kids cancer is not doing it out of love. I resent my parents for giving birth to me. This life is more suffering than joy, and that is largely thanks to your death cult and others.

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        If God is outside of time, he has no beginning nor end, so he does not need a creator as he exists of himself

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          If God is outside of time, he has no beginning nor end, so he does not need a creator as he exists of himself

          Maybe the universe is like that. We don’t know.

          You’re pretending that science justifies the christian god specifically, which is ridiculous. If (big if) there is some kind of supertemporal framework for our universe, we probably shouldn’t call it “god” or anthropomorphize it. That would just confuse people.

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            The universe is not like that. It has a beginning so it CANNOT be eternal nor exist of itself

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              You don’t know that. Stop treating assumptions like facts. It’s okay to say “I don’t know.” It’s not okay to make shit up.

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                    anything that has a beginning (this universe) in our plane cannot be eternal

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                  Fuck off, that’s not what I said.

                  The honest answer is we don’t know. We can’t know.

                  So stop pretending to know it is god. There is no reason to assume that.

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                    Hey so, maybe we cant comprehend an omniponent God because we are not omnipotent?

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      be loving enough to create it

      Welp, i created my minecraft world but i am not very loving of villagers