The U.S. has used tariffs and security rules to keep Chinese cars off dealer lots. Alphabet’s robotaxi company appears to be buying them by the boatload.
fair but if china is buying it at such a rate they are not shifting to clean energy. i don’t think the supplier matters as much as the demand. and if 34% of emissions in the US are down but our energy usage hasn’t gone down then that 34% is still the US producing less emissions either because there’s less necessity or demand for it.
I’m not sure I understand the point you’re making.
Regardless, China deployed an entire US electricity grid of capacity in solar energy in a single year. They are making the translation to green energy.
both can be true at once. they’re increasing use of fossil fuels as well as solar and wind. here is a chart of their emissions. they’re trying to transition away with it with some success and some challenges, but painting a picture like they are environmentally friendly is inaccurate.
It says ‘2025 projected’. When was that ‘projected’? The year China really started laying solar was 2024.
Its interesting data, but I’m not sure it responds to the point I’m making. My point is not that China is currently green but that they are in the process of building the infrastructure required for the transition away from fossil fuels.
I think describing what they’ve done so far as ‘some success’ is understating the scale of what they’ve accplished. Especially when compared to their contemporaries such as the US.
The US is down because the US exported much of its industry to China.
fair but if china is buying it at such a rate they are not shifting to clean energy. i don’t think the supplier matters as much as the demand. and if 34% of emissions in the US are down but our energy usage hasn’t gone down then that 34% is still the US producing less emissions either because there’s less necessity or demand for it.
I’m not sure I understand the point you’re making.
Regardless, China deployed an entire US electricity grid of capacity in solar energy in a single year. They are making the translation to green energy.
https://archive.is/20260416223302/https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-01-28/china-s-four-year-energy-spree-has-eclipsed-entire-us-power-grid
both can be true at once. they’re increasing use of fossil fuels as well as solar and wind. here is a chart of their emissions.
they’re trying to transition away with it with some success and some challenges, but painting a picture like they are environmentally friendly is inaccurate.
Can I have your source for that graph?
It says ‘2025 projected’. When was that ‘projected’? The year China really started laying solar was 2024.
Its interesting data, but I’m not sure it responds to the point I’m making. My point is not that China is currently green but that they are in the process of building the infrastructure required for the transition away from fossil fuels.
I think describing what they’ve done so far as ‘some success’ is understating the scale of what they’ve accplished. Especially when compared to their contemporaries such as the US.