• ranzispa@mander.xyz
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    2 days ago

    The turing test is not relevant anymore. Any LLM would pass the turing test without much problems.

    • 🍉 DrRedOctopus 🐙🍉@lemmy.world
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      1 day ago

      it is more relevant than ever.

      it wasn’t a test for sentience, but a thought experiment on what sentience is.

      and now that it has been passed, we need to seriously consider what is or isn’t scientient.

      and so far, haven’t heard anyone provide a good definition or test. or even guidelines. and more importantly, laws.

      if a lab was to create a scientient LLM, are they allowed to turned it off? shouldn it be illegal to try?

      How tf can you define sentience?

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      1 day ago

      Go read what Turing proposed, it is a lot more complex then how it is often parroted. There are many more tests that the latest models would not pass, like explaining poetry (that it was not trained on)

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      1 day ago

      Any LLM would pass the turing test without much problems.

      Lol no. There are soooo many completely terrible bots. The vast majority.

    • 🍉 DrRedOctopus 🐙🍉@lemmy.world
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      2 days ago

      that’s the whole fucking point of the Turing test.

      that sentence isn’t a strict true or false, and if you can’t tell the difference, then the real question is wether there is a difference.

      maybe the only ethical solution is to assume it is and consider using it a form of extremely unethical slavery.

      under that lens modern AI is some rick and Morty bullshit. Like imagine creating a life for a menial task then executing it as soon as it’s done. Then everyone discussing it’s competency rather than how fucked up it is.

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        1 day ago

        I’m not grasping what you want to say.

        The turing test is an outdated test, it has been an important milestone but nobody working on computer sentience either philosophically or scientifically considers it a valid test anymore.

        According to the turing test, LLMs are sentient beings. The widespread opinion is that they are not.

        • 🍉 DrRedOctopus 🐙🍉@lemmy.world
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          1 day ago

          According to the test, it might be. The biggest reason why it isn’t is according to the capitalist financial interest.

          I’m not saying it is. or isn’t.

          but we cannot just with this toys that we don’t understand.