State lawmakers are mulling a law that would establish commonsense protections for families that give their children a reasonable amount of independence.
There was a documentary a few years ago about a German correspondent in the US. She let her teenage kids have the same freedoms as in Germany: roam the neighborhood, bike to school etc.
The neighbors called CPS on her when the kids were in the street and the school talked to her that her kids weren’t allowed to come by themselves, she HAD to drive them.
Which is wild, cause when I was in elementary school, I would walk/ride a bike like 5 miles to school, and the school had a massive bike lockup because so many others did the same as well.
Crazy how we’ve gone from “Get the hell out of the house and don’t come back till the street lights come on” to “OH MY GOD, CHILDREN ARE IN PUBLIC. CALL THE POLICE! CALL THE NATIONAL GUARD! CALL ANYBODY!!!111!”
Well we can’t actually do anything to stop the literal blood-drinking pedophiles who run this country, so instead we try to make sure children are never seen outside. It’s the next best thing.
implying that it isn’t the blood-drinking pedophiles who want the children locked up at home; so they stay numb and isolated and grow up to be adults making money for the pedos.
They don’t want to rape all kids (not physically or sexually, anyways). Of course, they all want to rape kids.
Crazy how we’ve gone from “Get the hell out of the house and don’t come back till the street lights come on” to “OH MY GOD, CHILDREN ARE IN PUBLIC. CALL THE POLICE! CALL THE NATIONAL GUARD! CALL ANYBODY!!!111!”
I daresay it’s because of the kids in that first scenario growing up and remembering what they witnessed while they were out on their own. Not all of them, of course.
I wont deny that there may be people out there who are a definite fit for your scenario…
But generally speaking, I think its more encouraged addiction to technology. I see it so often, in my own family and elsewhere, where whenever children start needing attention… the response isnt to give them attention, its to shove a phone/tablet in their hands and shooing them off to a corner to sit down and occupy themselves.
while back in the day, parents did give their kids attention. Still encouraged them to go outside and shit, but kids did get attention. They did raise their kids.
Heh. Here in Germany schools are really trying hard NOT to have “parent-taxis” bring their kids to school by car, as that causes a lot of traffic in front of the schools - and endangers those kids that walk on their own or ride their bikes.
Typically stopping in front of schools is frowned and where possible they try to remove stopping places right in front of the front door (e. g. by making them “school bus only”)
My daughter (adult now) was walking 70m to Kindergarten (crossing a street which we trained a gazillion times with her) on her own from a few weeks before her fourth birthday. (Yes that was unusual, too, but we lived practically next door and she was so proud and happy about the trust we put into her).
In the US we would probably have gone to jail for that.
The same just for sending out the kids to play outside in the traffic-free block where we lived at that time. “Go outside” was something we told them to do.
Im in the US and live literally across the street from my kids school. He starts kindergarten in August and I told some neighborhood parent friends I was going to just let him walk himself to school while I watched from the stoop sipping coffee. A lot of them were mortified and a few thought the school wouldn’t allow him in without me dropping him off. Wtf
Where I live, younger kids (can) walk if closer than 2 miles AND not crossing any large roads. But if they can’t walk the school system provides busing. Lots of kids get dropped off by car anyway because parents are driving to work, I have made that loop for mine some years. But there isn’t a situation where car riding is required for public school (except for school choice schools, if there is room you can put them in a not neighborhood school, like if you work across town and want them close to your work not your house) - school won’t bus them there - for magnet schools like performing arts they do have a school bus system to get them farther. My high schoolers (teenagers) took the city bus.
Schools do sort the kids at dismissal, into a bus group, a car group, and walkers, in the elementary/primary school, and all of them have to have someone adult or close to it come for them, they can’t just wander home like I could.
I walked to school by myself since I was 10. I rode a bus to school by myself when I was in middle and high. Everyday I find scores of kids riding the same bus I use to go to work.
I live in Spain, by the way, in one major city. Never happened anything bad to me (except missing the bus and having to wait for the next one, or having to stand when the bus was full).
That’s not something I’ve ever heard of. Here, if you live within a couple miles of the (middle or high) school, there aren’t busses available. We live next to an elementary school and I see kids walking by themselves every single day.
I think the policy covers payouts for kids getting hit by cars between entering school property and walking into the building? That’s the only thing that makes sense.
There was a documentary a few years ago about a German correspondent in the US. She let her teenage kids have the same freedoms as in Germany: roam the neighborhood, bike to school etc. The neighbors called CPS on her when the kids were in the street and the school talked to her that her kids weren’t allowed to come by themselves, she HAD to drive them.
Which is wild, cause when I was in elementary school, I would walk/ride a bike like 5 miles to school, and the school had a massive bike lockup because so many others did the same as well.
Crazy how we’ve gone from “Get the hell out of the house and don’t come back till the street lights come on” to “OH MY GOD, CHILDREN ARE IN PUBLIC. CALL THE POLICE! CALL THE NATIONAL GUARD! CALL ANYBODY!!!111!”
Well we can’t actually do anything to stop the literal blood-drinking pedophiles who run this country, so instead we try to make sure children are never seen outside. It’s the next best thing.
implying that it isn’t the blood-drinking pedophiles who want the children locked up at home; so they stay numb and isolated and grow up to be adults making money for the pedos.
They don’t want to rape all kids (not physically or sexually, anyways). Of course, they all want to rape kids.
I daresay it’s because of the kids in that first scenario growing up and remembering what they witnessed while they were out on their own. Not all of them, of course.
I wont deny that there may be people out there who are a definite fit for your scenario…
But generally speaking, I think its more encouraged addiction to technology. I see it so often, in my own family and elsewhere, where whenever children start needing attention… the response isnt to give them attention, its to shove a phone/tablet in their hands and shooing them off to a corner to sit down and occupy themselves.
while back in the day, parents did give their kids attention. Still encouraged them to go outside and shit, but kids did get attention. They did raise their kids.
Today its Cellphones/Tablets raising kids.
Heh. Here in Germany schools are really trying hard NOT to have “parent-taxis” bring their kids to school by car, as that causes a lot of traffic in front of the schools - and endangers those kids that walk on their own or ride their bikes.
Typically stopping in front of schools is frowned and where possible they try to remove stopping places right in front of the front door (e. g. by making them “school bus only”)
My daughter (adult now) was walking 70m to Kindergarten (crossing a street which we trained a gazillion times with her) on her own from a few weeks before her fourth birthday. (Yes that was unusual, too, but we lived practically next door and she was so proud and happy about the trust we put into her).
In the US we would probably have gone to jail for that.
The same just for sending out the kids to play outside in the traffic-free block where we lived at that time. “Go outside” was something we told them to do.
I’m in the US, kids regularly walk or bike around the neighborhood on their own, or go to school or the bus stop on their own.
There are crazy and weird places in the US, but there are also normal places.
Please extend us your hope that we can get out from under this fascist state government.
Im in the US and live literally across the street from my kids school. He starts kindergarten in August and I told some neighborhood parent friends I was going to just let him walk himself to school while I watched from the stoop sipping coffee. A lot of them were mortified and a few thought the school wouldn’t allow him in without me dropping him off. Wtf
Where I live, younger kids (can) walk if closer than 2 miles AND not crossing any large roads. But if they can’t walk the school system provides busing. Lots of kids get dropped off by car anyway because parents are driving to work, I have made that loop for mine some years. But there isn’t a situation where car riding is required for public school (except for school choice schools, if there is room you can put them in a not neighborhood school, like if you work across town and want them close to your work not your house) - school won’t bus them there - for magnet schools like performing arts they do have a school bus system to get them farther. My high schoolers (teenagers) took the city bus.
Schools do sort the kids at dismissal, into a bus group, a car group, and walkers, in the elementary/primary school, and all of them have to have someone adult or close to it come for them, they can’t just wander home like I could.
I walked to school by myself since I was 10. I rode a bus to school by myself when I was in middle and high. Everyday I find scores of kids riding the same bus I use to go to work.
I live in Spain, by the way, in one major city. Never happened anything bad to me (except missing the bus and having to wait for the next one, or having to stand when the bus was full).
Some school’s insurance policies prohibit kids from arriving in any way other than by parent’s car or school bus.
That’s not something I’ve ever heard of. Here, if you live within a couple miles of the (middle or high) school, there aren’t busses available. We live next to an elementary school and I see kids walking by themselves every single day.
This makes no sense. Why would a school’s insurance policy cover kids outside of school (excluding the bus which might still be school jurisdiction)?
And if insurance doesn’t cover them anyway, it shouldn’t care what they do.
I think the policy covers payouts for kids getting hit by cars between entering school property and walking into the building? That’s the only thing that makes sense.