• gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works
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    The looks… You don’t get to see the looks on [council members’] faces. They didn’t understand it was satire in the beginning until the end, and the looks on their faces were like, we hate you and we’re gonna get you. They were not happy, they were very upset.”

    Point of order: politicians should have a healthy fear of crossing their constituents. Politicians are not special, and if they think they are, they must be reminded - forcefully, if necessary - that they are not. If a politician responds to something with “we’re gonna get you”… well, that’s a two-way street. Check yourself before you wreck yourself.

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      Politicians should get a pay raise. Under the agreement their actions, movements and motivations as well as how they use their money is largely public information.

      If it is found out you hid or lied about any of that. Prison time and removal from office as well as handing that office to a 3rd party candidate from one of the other established political parties.

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        It should be ENTIRELY public info. If you are going to be handed the power to inflict your views on an entire constituency, you lose the right to hide anything you do. There can be no place to hide malfeasance or they will use it. If they are unwilling to sacrifice their privacy, they can stay home. They are not being forced to seek public office.

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          100% any argument for privacy can lick my privacy. The least private citizens should be the ones leading. I think there should be less legal protections for these individuals. They have shown those positions cannot be trusted

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    Maybe we should do it. A lot of conservative types have shit empathy and only really understand things when it’s happening to them.

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        Conservative ideology and radicalization generally also tends to be built out of a persecution complex, so I’m not sure if that will have the intended result.

        Whether it’d be just and appropriate or not though, is another story

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          Conservative ideology and radicalization generally also tends to be built out of a persecution complex, so I’m not sure if that will have the intended result.

          They already believe, and behave, as if they’re being persecuted, even when they’re not. We’re already seeing the results of their mental illness. Might as well actually help the rest of society by making them see what it actually looks like.

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      We don’t even need to build our own system. Flock data is owned by the government, and thus available for the public to request via FOIA

      We own the data, let’s get requests for it

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        Except these cameras are likely excluded from areas that lawmakers exist in. It would be dystopian to expect elected officials to live under surveillance Of their every move! /s

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          I live a couple blocks from my state governor and there are plenty of Flock cams here. I’m sure the private gated suburbs might not have them inside, but they will be on the roads connecting between them, so FOIA is actually a great idea.

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            Actually, many HOAs have been installing Flock cameras because that shit is right up the alley of something an HOA president would want.

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            Surely they have their own cameras on the inside, Ring doorbell cams etc.

            The article mentioned that citizens can opt their privately-owned cameras into the system. Now I’m curious - in places with that kind of system what is the rate of opt-ins among those with power vs. the general population.

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          Where I live there is a bridge that is the only way out of the city on the North and East. I can guarantee elected officials are using it too

          It has a Flock camera on either side. Also the main road along the river has 3 cameras covering a 360 degree view

          The cameras here are set to maximize the number of people tracked

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        Flock data is owned by the government? That’s kinda crazy. I assumed they just paid for access. Something doesn’t sound right.

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      Also a lot of conservatives- especially conservative politicians- maybe need the ah, “oversight”.

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    Gave me the idea to do a FOIA on all flock hits on the mayors car. Simple enough to create a image showing where he goes, how long he stays, patterns, stores he visits, where he eats, his Bluetooth devices,WiFi devices, maybe some MAC addresses.

    See how he feels about that being perfectly legal.

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          I’m just a random individual on the internet with no specialties and you should absolutely never take my advice. Especially when its unrelated to the post above.

          Bettercap WiGLE WiFi Wardriving Ubiquity’s WiFiman BLE Radar nRF Connect

          One should never use a script to automatically spoof the MAC of their WiFi dongle or phone’s WiFi/Bluetooth hardware.

          One should never leave their house unlocked while leaving for work as raccoons might break in and cause havok in your kitchen.

          Never ever flash the wrong firmware to your router, it’ll become a brick.

          If you ever need to learn how to repair your car I hear shop manuals will teach you the ins and outs of your car, and they are easily obtained online in pdf format, from the manufacturer.

          I’ve also heard that sometimes radios will take over stations in a nearby car if the signal is strong enough.

          Tap for spoiler

          Knowing the enemy enables you to take the offensive, knowing yourself enables you to stand on the defensive. Sun Tzu.

          Edit: Thanks for the downvote frongt, good to know which company you own stock in

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    We should just start putting up our own cameras right next to theirs that they can’t access. I mean, it’s basically what they are already doing to us so I feel like it’s totally fair.

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    Man wanting more privacy ends up under the Internet microscope.

    I really really hope his presentation sinks in for ALL elected officials.

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    Isn’t Flock already doing all this stuff to the city council, along with everyone else? Didn’t the city council vote for this already?

    We’ve only got Petrosky’s word that the council-people were concerned by this at all.

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      I’m inclined to believe him about their reaction. Pretty easy to imagine a small town council having either a lack of perspective or complete ignorance when approving it.