I am looking for a new laptop for my sister. Her budget is 650€. What laptop is the best overall? Macbooks are excluded, as she doesn’t like them. The OS is not important, I can install the OS myself. It shouldn’t be a gaming laptop and it also should have a long battery life. No ARM or RISC-V laptops please. Build quality should be decent.

Thanks in advance.

edit: specific requirements

  • Display size: 13 to 15 inches
  • Display resolution: +1920x1080px
  • Aspect ratio: 16:9
  • Thickness: Slim
  • Screen color accuracy is not important
  • Screen should be anti glare
  • RAM: +8GB SODIMM DDR5
  • Storage: +512GB SSD
  • Touchscreen: preferred
  • Foldable screen: preferred
  • Upgradeability: RAM and the SSD should be upgradeable
  • Keyboard: QWERTZ, DE-AT
  • GPU performance does not matter, would be only useful for video hardware acceleration
  • CPU performance does matter
  • NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip
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    17 hours ago

    I bought an HP (I know, I couldnt believe it either) bare bones basic laptop.

    On sale for 300 US while I was there.

    Removed windows, put of Fedora. Everything works, battery life is good.

    Its surprising what you find on the lower end because they use well supported standard stuff to keep costs down.

    No issues, been two years.

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    2 days ago

    Are you married to a new one?

    I pretty much exclusively buy used ~3 year old Thinkpads which meet all of your specs and then some. My last two were X1 carbons (7th gen and now a 9th gen). Each cost me about $450.

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      This was going to be my answer. I only buy used business-grade laptops. Thinkpads are the obvious choice, but I’ve also had good experiences with HP Probook and Elitebook models too.

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      She does want a brand new one, yes. Obviously used ones could get her a better one but she just doesn’t want them.

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        2 days ago

        Ah, well, that limits things a bit then.

        I have refined tastes when it comes to laptops, but I’m also cheap, so lightly used high end models are right up my alley. Unfortunately, I can’t think of any [brand new ones] I would stand behind that are in that price range other than maybe a Macbook Neo, but you specifically ruled out ARM (they’re also not supported by Ashai Linux yet, either).

        Sorry.

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    “Best overall” is nonsensical in this context. Here are some things people care about:

    • Size class - a 17" laptop isn’t better or worse than a 12" laptop. They’re for different use cases.
    • Thickness class - thicker tends to make it better at computer stuff and battery life, thinner is thinner
    • Screen color quality and accuracy - important to some, not to others
    • Touchscreen - yes, no, indifferent?
    • Screen aspect ratio - most are 16:9, some are taller
    • Screen resolution - most are at least FHD, but you can probably find something worse. Do you want better?
    • Upgradeability - can you get to the SSD? Can you put a DIMM in it after you win the lottery?
    • Keyboard feel and layout - some of us are more picky than others
    • Power supply - does it need to run from USB-PD?
    • “OS is not important”, but you probably have one in mind and may need to consider compatibility
    • Does GPU performance matter? It’s 2026 and GPUs aren’t just for gaming anymore
    • Does CPU performance matter?
    • How much RAM and storage is required?

    I like my Thinkpad P14s III 6850u, but being a good fit for my needs doesn’t mean it’s the “best” or that it would be suitable for your sister.

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    Get a Thinkpad T480, Intel ME can be disabled and it has working coreboot/libreboot builds, might someday be fully open-source. Don’t let your close ones use vulnerable spyware.

    It also checks all of the boxes, except what’s a “foldable screen”?

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      1 day ago

      Just guessing here, but it might be a screen that folds backwards so you can use the laptop as a tablet, considering OP is asking for a touchscreen as well