• lennybird@lemmy.world
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    The problem is that there are multiple problems, and some of the solutions aren’t close to the root cause. I’ll try my best to explain.

    One can say that age alone isn’t the problem; it’s corruption. I’d personally say the problem isn’t term-limits; it’s the ignorance of the electorate in discerning who is ready to go.

    Yes, Sanders is an outlier that proves that old age isn’t always a problem; but he’s also proof that term-limits have negative consequence – for he has been an exceptional Statesman for decades, and we would’ve lost him long ago, if we had term limits.

    So in my opinion in terms of corruption, we are chasing symptoms instead of the root cause, which is helping the electorate identify when a politician is useless. Examples of this: Kentucky for McConnell, California for Feinstein, New York for Schumer, and Maine for Collins.

    Independent of corruption, old age is certainly an issue though. But even from a corruption standpoint, these senile geriatrics know they’re not long for this world and have little stake in the long-term future of the country, or even being worried about being held accountable and spending years in prison. That alone matters.

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      I’d personally say the problem isn’t term-limits; it’s the ignorance of the electorate

      I’d say that it’s disenfranchisement and the fact that elections arent mandatory. That makes it more advantageous for the non-working class to spend time at townhalls and at voting booths.

      A man working 2 jobs 12 hours a day to support his family simply isn’t going to have the same kind of presence as a business owner who makes his own hohrs or retirees who no longee work full time. And that applies even to voting. So guess how the voter skews?

      But mandatory voting isn’t even in the conversion right now. Term limits are and has precedent. We gotta try something.

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        Yeah I’m amicable to term limits as one method of helping solve this, I just have concerns and will have to do more of a deep dive on the pros and cons. Sadly the issue with so many of these good ideas is that it still puts the cart before the horse. We know what needs to be done, but since the likes of term limits require literal Constitutional Amendments, that requires both widespread public consensus, and an ability to vote together and for legitimate representatives willing to play ball – which, naturally, is the very problem we’re trying to fix in the first place.

        So we have the 3rd and 4th step… But how do we get there from here?

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          really hard to say. We first need to stop breaking our government and get adults back in the room. Then we need chains of actions that rebuilds trust amongst all of us, or enough of the apathetic to rule out the inevtiable MAGA propoganda. It’s not impossible because term limits are generally a positive topic (very few people like the idea of career politicians to begin with), but still an uphill battle

          Alternatively, we could somehow garner massive support that even Trump can’t ignore. But that’s a harder order than the above.