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schizoidman@lemmy.zip to Technology@lemmy.worldEnglish · 4 months ago

'It doesn’t catch fire': Why China’s "fireproof" sodium battery could be the breakthrough that makes EVs safer than ICE cars

www.techradar.com

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'It doesn’t catch fire': Why China’s "fireproof" sodium battery could be the breakthrough that makes EVs safer than ICE cars

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schizoidman@lemmy.zip to Technology@lemmy.worldEnglish · 4 months ago
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New sodium battery creates an internal barrier that prevents fires
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New sodium battery technology creates an internal barrier that helps prevent battery fires

cross-posted from : https://lemmy.zip/post/62209262

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    the breakthrough that makes EVs safer than ICE cars

    Did Toyota write this? EVs already are much safer than ICEs, the headline reads like it’s trying to gaslight people into thinking otherwise.

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      Except ones with no handles. You’re supposed to burn alive in these.

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        Which has nothing to do with the drive train.

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          Except the fact that batteries burn extremely rapidly. In case of fire you have seconds to open the door and help the driver/passaners escape out of the vehicle

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            Dude…gas cars blow up every day. It’s so common it’s not news.

            Vehicle fires report | NFPA Research

            National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) https://www.nfpa.org/ › research › fire-statistical-reports Oct 31, 2024 — The 195,927 highway vehicle fires per year in 2018–2022 caused an average of 579 civilian deaths; 1,336 civilian injuries.

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            I’ve heard that gasoline also tends to burn rapidly. The Mythbusters usually had to add gas to make their explosions look cooler

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              Not as rapidly as lithium batteries. From firefighting perspective this is much uglier case. Bonus issue: unlike gasoline, you can’t extinguish it reliably - it has to burn out on its own

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      Except their weight which leads to insane amounts of energy transfer and also none of the intrastructure, like guardrails, is built to handle that much weight so low down.

      The way to safer is to reduce the amount of cars.

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        Next best thing to improving public transport to reduce the ammouny of cars would be reducing the size of cars, thus in large part negating the weight issue.

        But like you said, nothing beats just having fewer cars on the road.

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          Just make cars insanely expensive, eventually Less cars will be on the riad

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            That just punishes poor people. If you male public transport good, people will take it.

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              I was being sarcastic and it didn’t come off well

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        EVs weigh similar to similar ICE vehicles.

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          Yeah, no.

          This is a golf compared to an id.3. Two very comparable vehicles. The id.3 weighs 41% more. Don’t get me wrong I’d love to be able to get an id.3 but all we get in the states are these horrible SUVs. That said EVs do still suffer a major weight penalty that comes with its own issues.

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          WTF Lemmy…EVs are massively heavy.

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          Not even a little bit, and I’d say “but good effort” but really no, not even that.

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      EVs already are much safer than ICEs

      For the occupant or those who are involved in a collision with one?

      EVs are heavy

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        They don’t catch fire that often though.

        Which is what that headline is about.

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          Do ice car catch fire more often?

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            Yes.

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      EVs already are much safer than ICEs

      https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevebanker/2025/02/11/tesla-again-has-the-highest-accident-rate-of-any-auto-brand/

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        You do realize that article neither negates or supports the above statement.

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          Safer cars get into less crashes. You seriously want to argue semantics?

          https://www.tesladeaths.com/

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            There are electric cars that are not Teslas…

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