• Eldritch@piefed.world
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    10 days ago

    Found the campist. 🤡

    Just because byte dance who still owned Tick Tock in 2020 pushed us servers off to singapore. Doesn’t mean that byte dance and by extension the Chinese government no longer had control. Tick Tock has always been right wing owned. Bite dance has always been a capitalist company. The current CCP is state capitalist. But the major shift to American capitalist ownership didn’t even have until 2026. Long after they had helped elect Trump again. And things have arguably only gotten worse.

    And what are you? Bibi netanyahu’s brother? Yes I am exactly as racist against China for being against their government, as people who are against the government of Israel are anti-semitic. Which is to say I’m not. I’m also against the government of the United States Canada UK etc etc etc generally. But damn you’re disappointing. You had a perfect chance to use your camps buzzword and you missed it. I was waiting for you to call me sinophobic. Which I mean was basically what you did. But even as a 🤡 you did it in the most impotent and baseless way.

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      O don’t know where the hate for China comes from. Oh their spying on you. Oh their cars could spy on you. So no different then every American company. But i guess american spying good Chinese bad. I which both these fucking countries would just implode. It would be hard since UA minor countries would have to actually start doing shit ourselves but with it.

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        I just hate the state myself. I’ve worked with Chinese, Taiwanese, Korean, Japanese, Philippino and even know a tiny tiny useless bit of Mandarin. They’re just people like everyone else. Just as the state is always the state, and not your friend. Doesn’t matter where they come from.

        There absolutely should be none of these unwieldy unmanageable entities state or business wise. Just self governing communities allying with other communities for mutual benefit and aid. Not holding eachother back. Tribalism/campism is always the stumbling block.

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        First of all, nobody here ever said the USA was great.

        China is an authoritarian state which bans the mere sharing of information as a criminal offense. They have successfully committed multiple genocides. They promote war abroad by backing similar regimes in North Korea, Vietnam, Indonesia, Venezuela, Cuba, and Iran, often funneling weapons in during the process. They singlehandedly kept the Russian invasion of Ukraine afloat. They have conquered Tibet and Hong Kong with millitant force and are preparing to conquer Taiwan and part of India. They used the IRGC to attack a music festival in Israel and jumpstart the most recent round of war across the entire middle east. They now have military footholds across Africa recently. They promoted Donald Trump and the GOP as well as alt-right leaders in Germany and other EU provinces. Even their trade practices are scummy by utilizing largescale slave labor and subsidies to undercut all competition and doing currency manipulation to make countries under hard times have even harder times as their economic recovery is seen as strengthening their enemies: everyone not subservient is their enemy.

        So fuck China. China is the largest threat to human life on earth. China must be destroyed before they destroy us all.

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      10 days ago

      byte dance who still owned Tick Tock in 2020

      And who owns ByteDance?

      Sequoia Capital, General Atlantic, SoftBank

      :-/

      Yes I am exactly as racist against China

      At least we’re getting to the nut of it.

      Fucking wild to tune into MSNBC and get the latest “China Invasion Of American Media” scare story, then spin around and call someone else a campist, though.

      🤡

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        Chinese companies like byte dance still answer to the Chinese government. Who is notoriously controlling. It doesn’t matter who the major investors are. All the investors care is if they are making money and if they stand to make more.

        You cannot celebrate China as a country that regularly puts people in Chinese companies to death for what it’s deems corruption. And not simultaneously claim that such companies are free to operate however they want independently.

        And if you’re going to keep being bad faith and using baseless arguments. Which you are. Again use the right terms. I don’t even watch it, but even I know it’s MSNow not MSNBC.

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          Chinese companies like byte dance still answer to the Chinese government.

          Bytedance isn’t a Chinese company. It’s a multinational - just like so many of the other social media companies - with corporate oversight coming from the same Silicon Valley cartel that backed Trump on every other platform.

          And if you’re going to keep being bad faith

          Why is it so hard for you to accept that Americans did this to themselves?

          Why do you need to make this an Evil Foreigner problem that can be used as a rationale for war?