• nbsp@programming.dev
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    15 hours ago

    is there any anecdotal evidence that IT departments are at least considering, thinking about, having an initial assessment of doing anything but just buying whatever slop microsoft is spewing out?

    kinda feels like until the river of gold from enterprise sales slows there is no downside to microsoft burning their platform.

    my anecdote is that no, IT is still a MS crack addict.

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      11 hours ago

      It’s because they sell all of their products as a vendor package with advertised SLAs and “discounts”.

      If your company needs cloud stuff and you happen to want Azure, you’re basically getting locked into Teams.

      Unlike specialty software like Adobe, pretty much everything Microsoft offers has feature parity or superior alternatives, it just relies on the fact that businesses aren’t stuck on any one of their products.

      There are actually a handful of companies that only use MacOS or Linux, but it requires both your IT team and management to be competent enough to throw MSFT away, which is much harder to do in a legacy settings when your entire domain infara is a 20+ year old AD domain.

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      13 hours ago

      People can barely use Windows and it’s been around for 30 years.

      I am not teaching 180+ staff how to use Macs or Linux.

      I’m not an MS fanboy by any means, but my job is hard enough without adding extra shit sprinkles on top.

      Fuck that.

      You obviously have zero knowledge about working in that environment.

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        10 hours ago

        I am not teaching 180+ staff how to use Macs or Linux.

        It’s not like they know how to use Windows either.

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          Yeah , most of the people in our IT don’t know how to use windows, much less teach anyone else about it.

          They just try, and often fail to lock it down so that people can’t break it. They remote in and make something slightly less bad and say, “well that was all setup wrong”. but they never teach anyone a thing - or apparently learn how to use install all this ms shite they buy before they force it on us.

          I think that’s the real issue with linux. IT people don’t want to learn it, and learn how to secure it - because many of them - especially the mamagers have got imposter syndrome about windows or something or stockholm syndrome, i dunno…

          At least when they fuck it up with miscsoft they can often blame MS - and often they’ve got a reasonable case ans MS does seem to keep fucking them over with updates.

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        10 hours ago

        aww, chear up, here have a hug (⁠*⁠˘⁠︶⁠˘⁠*⁠)⁠.⁠。⁠*⁠♡

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      day to day people who don’t care about computers as a hobby memorize the steps to using their computers along with the icons. The average person couldn’t use Linux in a work environment simply because they lack critical thinking skills required to use a slightly different computing environment. Your everyday middle management refuses to cut productivity for long term change that isn’t overwhelmingly positive to their bottom line.

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        12 hours ago

        I’m curious what the people down voting you thought. You’re 100% right. Critical thinking is in surprisingly short supply. If I provide instructions with pictures that have big red circles and an arrow around what they need to click for each step, I still need to make sure the instructions aren’t more than like 7 steps otherwise they get lost.

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          Most people - especially those without critical thinking - are clicking buttons in browser based CRM systems. Or using some other web-gui hold their hand and query or transact with a database. OS makes no difference to them.
          Even my very slow public sector org has moved most of its database interfaces to web apps by now - though i think there re still two important native windows (probably DOS) applications.

          Apart from those something like Chrome OS or OSX would probably be best for them - they just need a stable, up to date web browser.

          with cloud storage, and even MS pushing people to web apps, even paper pushers working via documents can still just use browser for stuff, and many are.

          Lots of people i work with suck so badly at MS Word that they don’t even know how shitty the web version is. They literally just click stuff and if the OS opens a web interface, then that’s what they use.

          Most of these people use androids or i phones for lots of things, so they certainly are capable of using things that are not windows - they just learn what buttons they need to click to do what. Like they would’ve in the 70s/80s with a unix terminal. Or in the 30s if they were operating a telephone switchboard.

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      13 hours ago

      The IT dept at my work uses exclusively Microsoft shit. Like, google products are banned on my work phone, as is pretty much everything else. They said this is for security and to help them remain GDPR compliant. As you might imagine, it’s shit.

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          9 hours ago

          Not entirely. It’s an android so it does have the play store, but only about a dozen apps are allowed to be installed. I can’t even install what 3 words, which my work uses constantly. Also I’d like to install the Google swipe keyboard, cos the Microsoft one is shit.

          Basically, the combination of a device that’s locked down hard and it only allowing MS products makes my work slower and harder than it needs to be.