Lemmy sure is a tough crowd.

Friends.

In Seinfeld the characters are supposed to be miserable and you aren’t supposed to identify with them. People don’t go around trying to put on a Seinfeld persona (at least in my neck of the woods. If your area is different please don’t make me more depressed than I am).

The number of people I’ve met purposely styling themselves after Joey or Phoebe is depressing and it’s more accepted because they’re “normal every day likable people”.

Gag me with a spoon

I watched Seinfeld and Frasier when I was in university and I absolutely loved both of those shows, despite how the leading actors have turned out to be.

Sometimes it’s okay to live with a bit of cognitive dissonance.

Edit: Friends on the other hand was trite and full of stolen jokes, and mostly liberal nonsense.

I think seinfeld is worse. I tried to like it.

• Friends is pretty easy to understand, seinfeld feels like it’s somehow appealing to a smaller audience.
• Friends has a bigger cast and bigger sets - Seinfeld uses a tiny, though realistic, apartment, and the diner they go to feels more closed in. I don’t watch sitcoms for the realism so i think friends wins here because it’s better thought out.
• Seinfeld struggles to control his smile and laughing, and it makes it seem like he’s a comedian constantly aware that he’s just playing a character or acting out skits he wrote. I think Friends has the benefit of the actors not, usually, writing their stuff. Also in Friends they eventually developed brilliant talent at riffing/ad-libbing, something which Matt Perry demonstrated from the get go and helped carry the show with.

eh, they are different vehicles. friends sucks cuz its trite, common bullshit. seinfeld was actually interesting because for once the cast was supposed to be unlikable… they were all terrible people destined to be tortured by their own narcissism.