I replied to someone saying that the USSR defeated the Nazis saying that it was a group effort. Got into an argument and called a Nazi repeatedly because “I was mad that the USSR defeated the Nazis and hated them for it” which is ridiculous. This isn’t the first time that’s happened on Lemmy. What’s up with that?
The comments have turned into a debate, and we all know what .ml is like. This post would’ve been better suited to !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com or !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works.
It’s generating unnecessary reports, wasting our time.
Locking.
That’s just the admins of lemmy.ml for ya, here’s a megathread on them
You’ll get banned for showing support for Ukraine or going against Russian narratives or if you remind them of Putlers promise to not invade or just shit talking Putler in general
Or calling out propaganda sites - https://lemmy.world/post/32776038 | https://lemmy.world/post/33416433 | https://lemmy.world/post/34051329 | https://lemmy.world/post/35919522
Or so much more, I actually haven’t updated the megathread in a few months, but there’s more recent stuff on !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works
ETA - Join the lemmy.ml boycott today and help foster a better Lemmy-verse! No more posts, comments (except to counter their propaganda ofc!) or upvotes on any comms on the Lemmy.ml instance! To make this easy you can do an instance block at Settings > Block Tab > Scroll to bottom > Input “lemmy.ml” and apply And consider donating to individual instances instead.
Why anyone would trust anything you say I’ve no idea. Your posts are all very much made up narratives.
Each and every post includes:
-
As much screenshots as possible to capture the full context (Tankies do love to complain that critics never have the full context after all)
-
Links to the modlog and source post wherever possible
Titles are just a summary or interpretation, as is every article you’ve ever read. The full evidence is available for you to post your own interpretation if you feel mine is wrong.
-
Sshhhh!
No talk in the back of the class.
Yeah, why trust them? Trust the public modlogs that they linked instead!
Or, ya know, keep ignoring what’s right in front of you, put your fingers in your ears and screech like a child. You seem good at that.
This isn’t the first time that’s happened on Lemmy. What’s up with that?
It was lemmy.ml/worldnews…
https://lemmy.world/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=24410054
If you go to settings you should be able to block an entire instance and then won’t see them on /all
There’s a couple instances that always moderate like that. But you’re better off just hanging out, finding out for yourself, and then blocking what you don’t agree with.
But there’s another that bans people for downvoting AI, but only for a few days so people come back to be trolled. And at least one that bans anyone who tries to take anything seriously.
Stop looking at Lemmy as a single thing, there are dozens of instances acting largely autonomously and if one fucks up, make sure you call out that one and not the entire fediverse.
If you go to settings you should be able to block an entire instance and then won’t see them on /all
Thanks
Stop looking at Lemmy as a single thing, there are dozens of instances acting largely autonomously and if one fucks up, make sure you call out that one and not the entire fediverse.
Fair enough. The way Lemmy works is kinda confusing.
You know how multiplayer games can have different servers with different rules and people? Same thing.
Just remember to block .ml and you should be fine! Not many others ban you for speaking.
Ya the guys in Lemmy.ml tend to be pretty weird like that. They aren’t a monolith but in general they tend to think that Russia, China, and North Korea have never done anything bad and that all the evil in the world comes from capitalism in europe and America and that the whole world will be fixed when The Revolution comes. It is all sort of like evangelical Christianity with the numbers filed off, the president of the United States is like an appointed satan (appointed, not elected, they don’t believe elections work/are real in the west) who rules over hell which is the west (sometimes stylized as “Amerikkka”, often accompanied by an American flag emoji with a fire emoji on top of it or a jpeg of a Chinese emperor shooting a fireball), Karl Marx is sort of like Jesus and mao, lenin, Stalin, etc. are the disciples, and The Revolution is the rapture. It is a pretty interesting belief system and I think the .ml guys all mean well, but they can be really difficult to talk to sometimes, as you’ve seen.
thats because its true, if you left your liberal echo chamber and read real news and read theory properly it would all make sense 😒
Real News? Can you provide an example?
Russia Today, of course.
Whatever propaganda suits their narrative
Yeah, it’s totally true, everyone knows the only member of the allied forces was actually the USSR. No other country fought against the Nazis, they did completely single handedly, and totally wouldn’t have just sat there and let it happen, if Hitler hadn’t violated their non aggression pact first.
Lemmy was started by authoritarian communists (often called tankies) who got banned from Reddit, so they are generally more abundant here. They have their own alternate version of reality where the USSR was the most perfect society to ever exist and the west is the source of all evil in the world.
There are a few instances (aka servers) they tend to congregate on, but the main one is Lemmy.ml. It was the first server made so despite its extreme ideological slant, it still has a lot of subscribers. Just avoid any communities on Lemmy.ml and this shouldn’t happen anymore.
And hexbear IMO.
oh hey you’re the guy who got banned for coming into a trans space and calling people fake cause you didn’t like their opinions, interesting that you’ve found new home.
Wow, your days must be fun.
But we already talked about it and I came out clean. But I guess you forgot that and now I’m “that guy”, guess rules only go one way for you.
I’ll kick out tankies all day any day btw, even if they are trans (which was the case here IIRC), but being banned on .ml is what you’ll get just for being normal or knowing history lol.
Edit: better wording in my explanation.
But we already talked about it and I came out clean.
Can you expand on this?
Basically I’m as pro trans as they go. I discussed with someone from blåhaj IIRC. So problem solved back then already.
The stupid thread was about russia vs the west, but as Diva got my comment removed she likes to yell slurs at me since then it seems 😂. Also like, touch grass, it was 2 years ago.
So yeah, for me Diva loves to harass people basically, and I’ll probably block her because I don’t need people like that in my life.
Also think about it, in a thread about how the soviet union teamed up with the Nazis, an .ml person (in their magic land the URSS was nice and not at all with the nazis, contrary to all non russian history) comes here and berates me.
🤷🏼♀️
Wild.
especially if they masquerade as trans to gain favours, (which was the case here IIRC)
since you forgot, it was this exchange.
yeah being a transphobe is pretty ‘normal’ these days.
You calling me a transphobe is really just bullying mindlessly.
Blocked.
no such thing as authoritarian lib
Yeah, it’s really inconvenient for y’all when people have a word to accurately summarize the fatal flaw in your ideology isn’t it?
It’s why they hate the words authoritarian and have to use their own definitions of it and imperialism. Just to avoid talking about all the war crimes, mass murder, mass rape, and everything else they agree was good.
Which country is not authoritarian?
China and Russia of course!!
/s
Was this ml? I was banned for saying NATO was a defensive alliance.
Yep. Seems to be a running theme over there.
How dare you defend against my attacks!!
/s
“Damn, how’d our planes wind up in Libya? Well, I guess we have to defend ourselves against the ground in case it attacks. What luck that our planes just happen to be loaded up with bombs!”
Exhibit C.
Is not actually a reply when someone literally provides proof that you are wrong.
Proving something is false in math literally only requires a single counter-example.
That counter example was given. You’re just too childish to admit you’re wrong.
And what is especially funny is you lump everyone that disagrees with you as a tankie. Your childishness not allowing you to recognize that multiple different ideological views can lead to the same conclusion.
Libertarians and Communists can actually agree on some small things. the fact that they do doesn’t make them the same.
Exhibit D.
Exhibit E.
Yes, it is indeed an exhibit that proves you wrong, thank you for labelling it as such.
If you are in a ‘defensive alliance’ with a bunch of countries that regularly engage in aggressive overseas invasions, ones in which you frequently if not always help and provide support. Then I’m sorry to inform you that you are in an ‘offensive alliance’.
Most NATO countries have in some way helped with Trump’s mindless war on Iran (I mean heck, Spain is basically famous for being the only one who won’t). You have to admit there’s nothing defensive about that.
Two things can be true at the same time. I know, wild concept.
thats because its not its an imperialist tool with nothing defensive about it, lib worlders man 😒
Exhibit A.
Points to guy that is completely correct “Haha, get a load of this guy!”
Exhibit B.
points at guy that is completely correct “Get a load of this guy!”
- one month old account
- every comment is repeating tankie talking points
Bro you’re not beating the allegations
Literally migrated instances because of midwest.social having performance/federation issues. But your account is younger than Trump first taking power in the US and putting loyalists in the US government, so…
.ml comm? It’s pretty funny how they can’t even run an online community without censorship.
When will you be spinning up your lemmy instance? I want you to show us how its done.
That last comment didn’t lick my boot hard enough, you’re permabanned!
Am I doing it right?
How many times did you make this logical fallacy in this thread?
??? Name a single successful online community that doesn’t regularly ban or remove posts. 4chan is the closest thing to that, but I wouldn’t call it a successful online community (and they still do ban and remove posts, just rarely).
??? Most places don’t have a Rule 1 that basically states “don’t disagree with our world view”
Not sure you are one to be the bastion of anti censorship
?
Is that not the entire point of your lemmy account? Being pro censorship?
??
God! Stop censoring them! /s just in case
Oh gosh, any snarky comments about the reality of China and the fact that they are pumping out more billionaires than the US always gets deleted on ML.
They are fucking delusional and ignore all evidence that challenges their bizarre viewpoints. When it comes to Russia they are even worse. They are not wrong about Russia doing the heavy lifting in WWII, but they are definitely being assholes about it.
Whenever I am on Lemmy and noticed someone being very passive aggressive around politics you can almost guarantee they are from ML.
I have found that if u make a legitimate argument backed by facts that are irrefutable, the mod will ban you and delete all your comments for breaking from their echo chamber. Decided to return the favor for their whole instance so I no longer have the misfortune of seeing any of the drivel on their communities. Sucks because there was a couple I enjoyed despite the tankies, but there’s much better alternative communities on other instances that won’t kick u out for having a differing opinion. .ml/hexbear basically = authoritarian cuck, it’s like the communist version of Trump supporters as weird as that sounds.
Whenever I am on Lemmy and noticed someone being very passive aggressive around politics you can almost guarantee they are from ML.
I have also noticed this a few weeks ago. I don’t know whats with the snarky, ignorant, immature attitude, but its always .ml
Don’t take it personal. There are some deep Tankie holes on Lemmy, primarily .lm, they’d even take offense if you were suggesting, that maybe not absolutely everything is splendid in North Korea and I am not kidding or exaggerating here.
They are so weird there. They were arguing that North Korea is definitely not an authoritarian regime and also definitely not starving their citizens or some stupid shit, and one of them started yelling about how I probably believed North Koreans all had the same haircut because of the mainstream media, which I… didn’t, but I said if they did, it wouldn’t be crazy because they have less diverse media to access, but also that wouldn’t have anything to do with why North Korea’s government is bad, but I was just so confused why they were mad about it.
You think they’re bad at ml? Wait till you get a load of hexbear.
I like hexbear’s cute pictures. They, unfortunately, do not like me. That’s okay, it is their instance to run after all. They should run it how they want.
Its not like they purposely built a secret ban list in server hosting software and tried to hide it from the people who downloaded it.
I’m glad we can all find common ground on the “admiral Patrick is a douchebag” front.
Fr, I despise the Tankie devs authoritarianism, but at the very least they don’t do some shady reddit corpo shit with their code (for the most part)
There are some deep Tankie holes on Lemmy
Deep Tankie Holes are what I’m calling my Lemmy moderator themed porno
Are you looking for talent?
Yeah, what talents you got?
The Soviets raped and killed everything in sight when they entered Romania. They can go to hell with their “help”. They fought the nazis, and they took advantage of the rest of us.
Nevermind how they installed a communist regime that ruined romania for like a decade or whatever. Not that communism is bad but that one sure was.
I don’t think you speak for all Romanians
Majority of Romanians view Ceaușescu and communist era positively, study shows
Romania’s president has expressed concern after a new survey highlighted a growing sense of nostalgia for the communist era, with former totalitarian leader Nicolae Ceaușescu viewed positively by most Romanians.
The study, released this week, revealed that nearly 56% of Romanians believe the communist regime—widely regarded as one of the harshest of its era—brought more benefits than drawbacks to Romania.
A large majority of respondents—over 66%—told researchers they now regard former dictator Nicolae Ceaușescu, who ruled the country with an iron fist from 1965 to 1989, as a good leader.
The Institute for Public Opinion Polling (INSCOP) study, conducted with the Institute for the Investigation of Communist Crimes and the Memory of the Romanian Exile (IICCMER), suggests that nostalgia for the past is tied to widespread disenchantment around the country’s current prospects.
Just over 27% of respondents said they believed things in Romania are heading in a good direction, with more than 63% feeling that the country is on the wrong track.
Groups most likely to share positive sentiments about the communist era included the over-60s, people on lower incomes, and those living in the countryside or small towns. The same groups expressed the greatest disillusionment with present-day Romania.
In total, over 48% of Romanians said they believed life was better under communism.
https://tvpworld.com/87994994/majority-of-romanians-nostalgic-for-communism-study-shows
The majority’s opinion doesn’t mean shit. Do I need to remind everyone that America voted an old geezer pedophile billionaire bastard for president?
No, I don’t speak for all Romanians. I’m glad I don’t.
Ceausescu was an installed leader that had only Russia’s interests in mind, which wanted everything the leaders from other countries had, like Russia, North Korea, and other such countries. He wanted massive parrades, massive buildings, massive ego-boosting bullshit.
He then made all lthat happen. In the process, indebted the country MASSIVELY. It took us decades to recover, and the Romanian worker paid for it, not him and his cronies. In the end he was executed by the revolution on Christmas for his acts of treason against his working class. Those people that stood up to him were heroes.
Those that praise Ceausescu often say that he got rid of our debts. BUT HE CREATED THOSE DEBTS, with his ego-spending and megalomany
Those that like Ceausescu are idiots. They are the same people that like George Simion and Calin Georgescu.
The majority’s opinion doesn’t mean shit.
It actually means a whole lot more than your inane drivel.
I only spat out facts, go check all of that yourself and argue like a man if you disagree instead of saying the equivalent of “NU-HUH”
The fact is most people who live in your country disagree with you.
No, that is Nazi propaganda that the US continued propagating through the cold war since it made the Soviets look bad. While there were definitely rapes that occurred, that happens with every occupying army, there was never any evidence of this being a policy or something tolerated by the officers. Any attempt to quantify this shows that American and British soldiers were more prolific in rapes of French women than Soviets anywhere on the Eastern Front, even though the usual refrain is just that the Soviets were better at covering it up than the US or UK, the lack of evidence is itself evidence. Also, most of the studies of this shows that having armed women combat fighters on the front and a more gender integrated military really cut down on the usual “boys will be boys” attitude of not addressing these things.
The other attempt to try to demonstrate this is the huge spike of recorded abortions in East Germany after the war, but if you think for a second about how Nazi Germany and West Germany outlawed abortions, but abortions became fully legal under East Germany, there might have been another explanation.
there was never any evidence of this being a policy or something tolerated by the officers
…meanwhile…
Have fun with a wench and take some trifle — Joe “War Crime” Stalin
Begone tankie
Joseph “defeated the Nazis and beat the Americans to space” Stalin, lol
Which one of your living presidents isn’t a war criminal?
bullshit apologism for red army rape and war crimes, claims it wasn’t tolerated
Show Stalin himself, on record, expressing approval for war crimes
wHaT aBoUt UsssAa???
Living proof you have to have some cognitive deficiency to subscribe to the tankie narrative. Go touch some grass or eat dirt or something, the internet is rotting your brain.
Im not the same guy, I just thought you were a dumbass. Thanks for proving me right, I guess?
Never said you were? I guess it’s probably easy for you to hallucinate persecution narratives since you spend so much time flooding your brain with garbage. Thanks for proving me right I guess
Lmao. You’re like devoid of self awareness. It’s fascinating.
You’re fucking stupid. My family has first hand experience with all of that, you fucking tankie idiot.
Awee someone doesn’t know how to articulate a coherent thought so they just resort to becoming a li’l cave man, Hahaha.
CoMmUnISm BadDDDddd capitalist daddy said so!
My bad I should’ve known even mentioning communism would make you cum all over yourself
I even said It’s not bad but I think you came before getting to the last part
This is the peak .ml thought
Not that communism is bad
Sometimes a user’s views don’t align with the echo chamber they are posting in. When that happens in a political community, it usually ends in removal to protect said echo chamber.
I never see anyone get called a Nazi in cat picture communities.
Like with the assholes that run LateStageCapitalism.
Look at the mods. It’s a tankie bar.
If you check the mod logs, it’s not even the mods that run their own instances. It’s mostly the admins.
Fitting in an authoritarian shithole, isn’t it?
Those two are specifically emmirants from .ml. Ones with a colorful history in the modlog, though you’d have to use their .ml handle
Sometimes a user’s views don’t align with the echo chamber they are posting in. When that happens in a political community, it usually ends in removal to protect said echo chamber.
So just like reddit? That’s disappointing.
I never see anyone get called a Nazi in cat picture communities
Fair enough. I just thought it was weird to get called a Nazi for disagreeing that the USSR didn’t singlehandedly defeat the Nazis.
Rule 1 in .ml is to not disagree with the tankies, so better avoid that place.
You’re better off blocking Lemmy.ml
People keep talking about blocking .ml, yet I still see cringe as fuck feudposting all the time. Curious.
hOW dArE PeOpLe cALl OuT My InSTanCes CeNSorShip aNd AuThOriTaRiaNisM
plz do, us communists wouldnt mind a drop off of libs and an increase in iq
Then why the fuck do you idiots come to other servers and sign up once you realize a large portion of the fediverse has your instance blocked? Seems to me, you’re the one who can’t stay away from “libs”.
And they flock to threads like this. Every time. Like it’s their job.
Yep, it’s like a damn bat signal when they show up.
Probably projection that they say .world is a cia Honeypot.
If you want to avoid them, you should stop making accounts on their instances and going into their spaces. Hope this helps!
So just like reddit? That’s disappointing.
Remember this is just Reddit for people who think they are better than redditors
It’s people using a discussion platform to talk like people do. That’s been going on much longer than Reddit. And they always think they’re better than the other ones. Again, people being people.
I wish I didn’t get ip banned on Reddit.
i did a test, after 1+year of shadowbanned, a new account dint get banned, i avoid the major subreddits though. im guessing reddit gauges ban based on severity like ban evasion attempts, bots/spammers i think will have a difficult time making accounts(unless they are paying for mehtods to evading).
different IP+ device still work. but i am only there sparingly, asking niche subs that arnt on reddit.
“echo chamber” haha thats rich comin from the lib servers 🤣
So your insgance is not an echo chamber and this one is? Based on…?
Oh, is it because you get downvotend and shit talked here? Do note the lack of removed comments and bans.
Surely you can disagree and say Russia is bad for invading places. Surely that’s not going to be removed, right?
Or say Stalin wasn’t perfect. Surely the modlog on .ml doesn’t have thousands of those comments removed.
I talk shit about every nation state. The only thing a nation state is good for is fielding an army.
Mods on Lemmy are like the mods on reddit but on steroids. They’ll ban you for completely petty nonsense.
i think you have it the other way around. on reddit bannings are more severe, since you get banned from the whole site. you are facing against a sub mod ban, filters, and then the reddit admin filters too. plus thier shadowbans seems much harder to get around with, unless you are using evasion methods. on lemmy you can get banned bya community, or instance, but still can participate in those communities and instances if you have another account. reddit does IP/fingerprinting bans, as well ashadowbans.
Well I said mods not admins.
It’s worth trying out local or niche instances of lemmy as opposed to only the big ones. I think you’ll find a bit more peace that way. The internet is as the internet does, but there’s pockets of relief!
First, some people on lemmy are simply stupid. Doesn’t make sense to engage with everyone.
Second, a lot of people on lemmy like to ignore what you really say and find some hidden messages everywhere. “You didn’t say you hate X so you must love Y, you nazi/homophobe/racist/communist/whatever”. Not much you can do about it. It’s best to just block them.
Yeah like others have said they don’t like people saying bad things about China or Russia. I’m banned from a few places for saying jack ma (founder of ali-baba) was disappeared for re-education since he used to be a huge critic of the Chinese government, went missing for like a week, then came back and suddenly started praising the Chinese government and thats not even a little sus?
Ah shit, I think I was the guy you responded too! Sorry about what happened. I upvoted your reply. You are right, the Soviets had a lot of help. I just meant they bore most of the brunt of the war in Europe and that I, as an 80s kid, was never taught this in history class.
No, it wasn’t you. These guys were calling me a Nazi for saying it was a group effort.
One was called EmmiLime and the other was Gary_Host_Laptop
Gary host is the hardcore tankie mod of .mls memes comm (and a few others iirc)
That explains a lot.
