They didn’t abandon it. They lie constantly. Why the fuck would we assume they have learned better? … Meh, bad journalism.
This is bullshit considering this just dropped today:
He’ll pave over the ocean like he did the Rose Garden.
Well that’s good news, at least.
And honestly, that was such a stupid fucking hill for him to want to die on - and he wants to die on a whole fucking lot of stupid hills.
I don’t care about the hill part. Get on with the dying already!
If only he would have a heart attack on one of them
Soon, friend, soon.
What I fear is that… He is just a metastase of a much deeper problem.
Even if he dies, nothing will change unless we fucking change it.
Sadly there is a long line of trash lined up behind him.
We know. And yet: I’d take great peace from not having his demented rambles in my newsfeed every day, reminding me that this diapered buffoon is the leader of the U.S.
That’s this universe we live in, the powers that be actively fighting progress, yet progress still is made. I’m grateful to those who progress technology and apply it to benefit humanity. The Drump administration just keeps losing.
Depends on the fucking technology doesn’t it? Most of it is capitalism slop. WE HAVE REINVENTED THE FORK! BY REMOVING A PRONG!
(it’s been shown according to a study that I found in my anus that three prongs are superior and makes you healthier and saves me 25% on the production cost, isn’t capitalism JUST FUCKING DANDY how did we even invent things before it?)
As long as the progress is profitable.
Something that may be profitable to some may be costly to others. Like solar power is to coal companies.
They don’t care about us in those games they play.
They’re not really fighting progress, they’re fighting whatever they don’t own that’s competing with what they do own. Whether that’s progress or convention doesn’t matter to them. At some point if the other thing wins they switch tactics and start buying it.
It truly was quixotic.
And then Orange will claim they support wind energy when the energy cost drop.
The fuckin pedophile will claim to have helped invent wind energy and his entire base will cheer on in triumph. He’d go go on further to exclaim that democrats were secretly trying to pressure him into stopping it, that’s why the push back at first but he prevailed and now the Earth is saved from evil Obama who tried to destroy it.
Joe Biden
Hillary Clinton.
Hunter’s Laptop
Buttery Males
What are you trying to accomplish with this comment
There has never been a bigger windbag, so he may have a legitimate claim in there somewhere.
By then they technically will support wind energy because they’ll have bought a big share of it. That’s what this is always about - support what you own, fight what you don’t own. If the other thing wins, buy the other thing.
Nah, just shifting gears. The old fight was to stop it, the new fight will be to own it.
That’s been the oil company’s strategy constantly. Repress the technology as king as they can until it’s inevitable, and then all of a sudden their green and eco friendly
My question is, why does it matter who in government supports what?
Let the people decide what to use or not themselves.
Personally, I love solar. If I could afford to buy a bunch of panels and batteries, I’d be generating my own electricity, and happily tell my power company to suck my dick.
Decentralization should not be so controversial!
My question is, why does it matter who in government supports what?
Because they were actively holding back required approvals for the wind farms to begin operations.
And that’s another thing, why do we need approval to build whatever the fuck we want on land we own?
Because we live in a society with laws.
Too goddamned many of them.
Easy to say, but look what happens when some oversized oompa loompa ignores them all And just acts for personal gain
Unfortunately we’re likely to get stuck with more laws, more red tape, more paperwork, trying to prevent the current disaster from happening again
That’s part of the problem with having so many laws written in lawyer speak. They are intentionally difficult to understand, so when someone the current leaders like is breaking them, they’re interpreted to be weaker, and when someone they don’t is, they get the book thrown at them.
That’s the problem with reinterpreting the laws we have instead of trying to actually change them.
Consider the US Constitution. It has been considering a “living document” in spite of the fact that there is a well documented path to adding new laws and changing or removing existing laws.
However, we have allowed the bureaucracy to j trude and decide that. No, this particular law actually means this now, when historically it meant the total opposite.
Again, speaking from the point of view of an American, because I know my own government best, why do we have so many new federal departments, despite not one of them being listed in the Constitution? Because some judge decided that the clause “Provide for the general welfare” could be reinterpreted to mean “provide for every single citizen inside the nation’s borders.” rather than for the nation as a whole.
Those same people would have had absolutely no power to add those departments the correct way, using the Amendment process.
Look at how we handled Prohibition in the early 1900s, we required a Constitutional amendment to ban it and then again to undo said ban.
Now, however, some random bureaucracy can decide what people can or can’t put inside their own bodies…
Why? Because some idiot decided to just reinterpret the Constitution.
In this case, height restrictions. It’s normally just a pro forma notification to the military that you’re building something above a certain height so they know not to crash into it. It got weaponised by the trump admin.
The military can go around, they’re not supposed to be on my property anyway. It’s my property, I should be able to do what I want on it.
Just more government overreach.
You think that sort of thing is new, or limited to just half of the Uniparty?
Or do you actually realize it’s not and are simply simping for your chosen side of the same stupid bird?
Fuck em both, and fuck anyone who wants “their side” to win. I am so sick and tired of having to deal with these kinds of power hungry assholes.
Or do you actually realize it’s not and are simply simping for your chosen side of the same stupid bird?
Me: Answers questions with facts
You: Simp!
Dude, I’ve never even been to the States.
The military can go around, they’re not supposed to be on my property anyway.
Also in case you didn’t realise, we’re talking airspace. Those turbines are way high.
Again, what gives anyone the right to determine what someone else puts on land they own?
You seem to actively want people to have to obey someone else, and if that’s not sucking authoritarian cock I don’t know what is.
Laws?
I hope you don’t mind when I build a 50 meter tall sun blocker to block your land from getting any sunlight since I should be allowed to build what I want.
You keep ascribing desires to me when I’ve done nothing more than explain the current situation… I have not stated a single opinion of mine in this thread thus far.
In case your attempt to start arguments is sparked from actual ignorance ….
federal permitting and leasing for wind projects
- many wind farms are not on owned property. In particular for offshore wind farms there is no land that can be owned. Many projects are in locations leased from the government
- if turbines are above above a certain height, it affects airspace used for flying, you don’t own
- even renewables can be bad for the environment. The trope about killing birds has some truth to it, and environmental review keeps it from happening
- yes, renewables can affect your neighbors and they deserve some consideration
- yes, it’s conceivable that a wind farm offshore or near a base or a border can have national security implications
In a nation of laws, things like this are worth considering. However that is different than using them as cover for personal beliefs
STFU, moron.
The government paid like $1B for wind farm developers to abandon projects.
Most of the time government slows things down, but the current administration actively fights against progress or shatter people want. wtf does he care about wind farms in New England enough to shut them down
I mean the alternatives are not all wine and roses. We pay among the highest electricity prices in the country and a big part of that is depending on wind farms that are already like a decade behind. Previous governments slowed them down, letting everyone be heard, but they didn’t actively oppose
Oh, I agree with you on that. We should not be picking winners and losers based on politics. That way leads to ruin.
When the right complains about wind farm and solar subsidies, I agree with them. They need to prosper or not on their own, not with tax money.
When the left complains about oil and gas exploration subsidies, I agree with them, too. For the same reason as above.
I get why people want to nationalize all these industries, and it’s because those industries were created in large part by using our money.
I also know that when a government constantly shields its citizens, including their businesses, from their own mistakes, it tends to create an attitude of dismissal towards improvement.
Because if you dont have some kind of regulation it ends up being about market forces, which has even less to do with the will of the people and more to do with what makes a very few people rich.
The main issue with government intervention isnt that “government bad”, it’s that those same few rich people have more influence on it than the will of the people. In a large part because those people would rather cede that power to them rather than make any kind of rational decision.
Its good that green energy is benefiting from market forces right now… but it’s a fair weather friend, and as soon as something else is more likely to make some rich asshole more money, it will be tossed back in the junk heap to rot.
Without the people buying things, those rich don’t exist. All regulations really do is line the pockets of the already existing companies and make it harder for the small guy working out of his garage.
People have forgotten that the wallet is the most powerful way to vote. Don’t buy their product and they won’t make any money.
All regulations really do is line the pockets of the already existing companies and make it harder for the small guy working out of his garage.
And protect the environment from wanton pollution and destruction, and provide workers with guarantees against their employer, and keep needlessly dangerous products from hurting customers, and…
And without those rich people making them, they have nothing to buy. They dont just magically appear for people to buy. That is a misconception (or misdirection, rather) with how consumer action works. You cant take action if the rich dont let you in those situations.
The wallet is only as powerful as the people who run your economy, and generally less so.
The economy doesn’t need to be “run” is my entire point.
It doesn’t need to be, no, but it will be, because we’re too busy pretending we can do something about it without organized action that is aided by an actually effective government producing actually effective regulation.
tell that to the owner class. maybe they will care and stop running the economy, if you are asking nicely enough.
Personally, I find regulations to be a bandaid over a legitimate problem: shareholder misalignment. Really, companies should only ever be consumer and worker coöps since those are the direct stakeholders and the reason businesses exist in the first place. Shareholders aren’t needed and only serve as a form of parasitic wealth extraction that feeds capital accural, cartel formation, and monopolization.
Even a perfect utopian co-op needs regulations beacuse most people don’t know anything about environmental impact or proper safety precautions.
Any work I do on my house I do to code (and I do look it up when starting a new project). The previous owner… not so much - I found newspaper wrapped around electrical junction boxes, because wires never get hot enough to light old, super dry newspaper on fire…
But you’re missing externalities. A huge reason we need better regulation is the tendency of corporations to externalize their costs to all of our detriment.
Climate and pollutions issues are a prime example. In a free market A corporations saves money by evading cleanup costs, polluting, and the rest of us pay. A justly regulated market minimizes those externalities so the corporations covers all its costs
Nor is decentralization controversial. And there can be a conversation about making sure it is not actively discouraged.
But economies of scale are real. Does that mean a single power plant for the entire US, continent, world is a good idea? Of course not. Nor is 8.3 billion* individual installations.
* current world population
Something…something…oil prices
No amount of weak old man outrage can put that genie back in the bottle.









