• adam_y@lemmy.world
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    I’m going to run with a little cynicism.

    I live somewhere where cannabis is not legal. There’s pressure, sure, but there’s resistance too.

    One of the factors that helped it legalized in western countries like Canada and the US is the notion of health. Pain relief. Treatment for some chronic illnesses.

    That’s cool. But imagine a pharmaceutical company isolates those health things.

    No need to legalized cannabis anymore.

    This stuff supports the anti-lefalisation movement by taking the benefits from it.

    Damned if we want to use if recreationally.

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        What happened to them? I really don’t know the history behind these hard drugs.

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          They started as medicines and were concentrated, distilled, and extracted to the point where the medicine it became was deadlier than the cure it provided.

          Coca leaves are still consumed medicinally/recreationally in some parts of south america.

          Poppy seeds have a whole history of being abused and weaponized through the silk road.

          Marijuana has faced a similar story, though without the deaths. This hasn’t stopped governments around the world from conflating the deaths caused by other things with the use of medicines that in no way cause death.

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            I have to point out that in medicine we use the derivatives from cocaine, novacaine, lidocaine, benzocaine etc as potent short/medium term anaesthetics. Drugs like these make dental extractions for example relatively painless today. Pure cocaine was used previously but was far more toxic to the liver and had a much higher incidence of allergic reaction than its modern derivatives.

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    Hey, that’s cool! This seems promising for enabling people dealing with chronic pain to have more options for ways to control pain without needing to potentially compromise mental function when they need it. Now to scroll through the comment section to see everyone’s completely reasonable and measured takes.

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    Not* sure how that’s possible because the high is what relieves the pain for me. Not thinking about pain when I’m stoned off my ass.

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      I’m not sure how you can objectively say the high is what gives pain relief. The two are intrinsically linked for you, and you’d be unable to know if it’s one or two chemical processes happening in your body at the same time. It’s just impossible to know.

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        Surely couldn’t hurt, especially if it doesn’t affect your tolerance for THC. Cause I really need to take a tolerance break, but I need pain relief and sleep more.

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            Unfortunately I’ve been there, done that. I feel nothing from CBD whatsoever. No pain relief, no appetite, no sleep. Feels like eating a snack

            Nope, I need my THC, so it’ll be interesting to see how this discovery plays out. Maybe I can finally get the relief I need without worrying about needing t-breaks.

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              Yeah unfortunately I’m the same way. Have tried several CBD things and not one of them do anything for me unless I go max dose, and even then it’s an incredibly mild effect. THC takes nearly nothing though, 15mg is enough for a very strong high. I have friends where the complete opposite is true and I would love to trade them.

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    Yall are fuckin wierd lol. I absolutely love cannabis, both recreationally and medically. But if there’s an additional choice to isolate the pain relief aspect without the psychoactive effects of THC, that would be amazing as well. It’s not an either/or choice - there are absolutely use cases for both. Regardless, I’m pretty skeptical that terpenes are any more useful for pain control than essential oils are.

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      This industry relies on innuendo and bots to fill comments on Reddit, anything but actual clinical trials with placebo controls. Same thing with terpene sleep aids.

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      Thing is, this is strain that’s gonna be legalized if any. So any fun use would still be illegal.

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        The states in the US that have already legalized weed are not going to let go of that tax revenue anytime soon.

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      If I’m not wrong, essential oils are rich in terpenes and maybe that’s what makes them useful as a pain treatment.

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            You have friends that have made a therapeutic ritual out of using essential oils which helps them only because the placebo effect can be very powerful for pain. Literally anything could stand in for the essential oils. Swap their oil vials out with convincing fakes and they’ll never know the difference because it’s the ritual of smelling and/or applying the oils that’s helping them, not any real physical mechanism of the compounds in the oils interacting with their biology.

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    This is so stupid. Just more pointless research to make you look the wrong way. Like Cannabis is this miracle plant that could offer us things we didn’t have access to before.

    I love Cannabis, she has been one of my best friends for over 25 years but let’s not kid ourselves. These terpenes aren’t unique to Cannabis, you shouldn’t be getting them from Cannabis, you should be getting them from your food.

    Unfortunately the food you are sold is dead and empty. Not only are processed foods stripped of all you actually need to support a healthy body, the fruits and veggies you buy are mostly dead strains that are grown in dead soil. It’s cheaper upfront, but then you have to pay for it in supplements, taxes and hospital bills.

    Geraniol: Citronella, rose, lemongrass

    Linalool: Lavender, mints, citrus, coriander, basil

    Beta-caryophyllene: Black pepper, rosemary, cloves, hops

    Alpha-humulene: Sage, hops, ginseng, ginger, mints

    Terpenes are the key. Spice up your lives.

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      Slam it to the left if you’re havin’ a good time, shake it to the right If ya know that you feel fine

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    Because god forbid anyone ever feel a high that doesnt benefit corporate cartels.

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      They already did this a long time ago, with Marinol, a course of which costed like 20k, while a 50 dollar baggie of weed would better do the job.

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        Didn’t that shit also have tons of side effects? I vaguely remember someone I knew took it and it made them nauseous

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    My dad his disautonomia so he has to smoke weed in order to cope with the pain from his nervous system.

    He’d rather not use pain killers aka morphine aka opiates for risk of getting addicted to those.

    Hopefully this compound will help his pain tolerance without giving him the high